Health
Information Management and Technology Plan
Submission of Women's Health Action Trust
1 April 2001
Background
Women's
Health Action has a long-term interest in the issue of personal health
information sharing using the NHI. We have organised public meetings,
seminars, met with NZHIS and took a complaint about North Health plans
to the Privacy Commissioner. Following this the Privacy Commissioner
released a report, Medical Record Databases - Just What You Need?
in 1998.
When
we organised public meetings on this topic, the message from participants
was that they wanted their records held with the person providing
their care. They were deeply concerned at systems which shared information
more widely.
2.
The WAVE project
We
have considerable concerns about this project. These are:
2.1
Lack of explicitness in consultation documents
Neither
the leaflet, nor the submission document clearly outline what the
project is. There was far more clarity in the Health Knowledge Strategy,
but this was not routinely provided as part of the consultation. Consequently,
it would have been unclear to many what it was all about. The key
points - greater use of NHI and the development of longitudinal health
records - were not clearly made in the consultation documents
2.2
Lack of consumer involvement
The
obtuseness of the submission documents will mean that many consumer
and community groups will not perceive the subject as of vital interest
to the public. In addition, when we have checked with groups, many
have not received an invitation to take part. The timeframe of four
weeks also makes it difficult for consumers to participate.
The
members of the HIMTP Advisory Board contain no consumer or community
representatives, so that there is no public voice at the highest level.
Page
10 of the Health Knowledge Strategy states that 'stakeholder
views' have been obtained and there is a summary in Figure 1 of Stakeholder
views. How was the consumer view arrived at? What consumer stakeholder
views were sought?
On
page 26 of the Health Knowledge Strategy it states that consumer
representatives have been involved in the development of guidelines
for sharing and accessing personal health information. What consumers?
And where are the guidelines?
This
week we have been approached (along with others) to nominate a person
to Standards New Zealand for an Expert Committee to develop a standard
on clinical records. This is being done under contract to the Ministry
of Health. Participants are expected to pay their own travel and accommodation
costs, and their supporting organisation is to pay for their participation.
The total cost of participation would be around $6,OOO for those out
of Wellington. It is difficult to see how a consumer organisation
such as ours could possibly be involved, although we would like to
be. This is a totally unacceptable way of getting input and does not
represent a serious attempt to put Principle Three of the Health
Knowledge Strategy 'Actively involve consumers and communities'
into practice.
It
is our view that such an important subject should have called for
an approach that created the widest possible opportunities for discussion
and comment by the public and for consumer interests to be represented
at the highest level in some numbers.
2.3
Poor quality of consultation documents
This
will be referred to throughout our submission. In summary, there is
no assessment of need, no evidence-base for the claimed benefits and
no evaluation of whether the scheme is practical and workable. These
are all serious omissions and provide no basis for going ahead.
When
we received the submission documents, we asked for this information.
The reply we got was that this information did not exist. We have
previously asked for this kind of information from the NZHIS and had
received little that supported such proposals.

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3.
WHA submission on HIMTP and Health Knowledge Strategy
This
submission will confine itself to comment on the proposal for Electronic
Health Records using the Bill
3.1
Extent of proposal
There
is a lack of clarity as to what is intended and how it would work.
There is no clear outline of just what records would constitute EHRs.
Page 11 of the Health Knowledge
Strategy says that information would come from hospitals, well
child, GPs, and dentists.
Elsewhere
disability support information, pharmacists, laboratories are mentioned.
On page 11 it is stated that the information may include 'clinical,
demographic, environmental, social and financial data.' In the HIMTP
submission document it is also proposed that NGOs and other community-based
providers should be able to use the NHI. This would enable their records
to be linked into EHRs.
This
is a very sweeping proposal that would constitute an unprecedented
amount of information about an individual and would be available to
an extensive range of groups and persons, as well as the state. It
is critical that there is an explicit description of just what information
is being talked about. What does 'social data' mean? What does 'financial
data' mean? Does it involve data matching with ACC? With social agencies?
Beneficiary status? Without an explicit description of the data to
be gathered, it is difficult to comprehend the full scale of this
project and comment in an informed way.
3.2
Consent
There
is a huge issue about consent to allow various providers or others
to access personal health information. Previously, when these proposals
were first mooted, we were assured that nobody would look at any information
without the consumer's consent.
At
that time, we questioned how consent could be freely given as there
was an element of coercion about sitting in front of a provider and
being asked if that information could be accessed. It would also be
very difficult for a consumer to give consent without knowing what
was held and by whom. Despite the Privacy Code, this is not done well
now. (Eg, some GPs simply put a notice on the practice noticeboard
about providing patient information to the IPA.) Given the current
practice, it is difficult to see how providers would rise to occasion
when faced with much more serious inroads into personal privacy.
In
addition, the very act of consenting involves disclosure of personal
health information. For example, 'You may look at my lab records,
but not my visits to the sexual health and abortion clinic.' Or, 'Can
you tell me what is held so I can consent?'
In
the Health Knowledge Strategy there is only one mention of consent.
On page 11 it states that 'Access to EHRs will be based on the consent
of the individual.'
There
is no further discussion as to how this will occur in practice and
how the issues we have raised above will be addressed.
3.3
Benefits of EHRs
These
are given on page 12 as
- Improved
health and participation outcomes
- Consumer
involvement
- Provider
productivity
- Planning
and research - though this refers to anonymised data
No
evidence is provided as to how these will be achieved.
There
are no references through the entire document!
In
other parts of the document it is claimed that EHRs will cut down
on duplication of tests. Hospital doctors will have access to the
results of tests ordered by GPs. No figures are produced as how often
tests are duplicated or the cost. When we have talked to hospital
doctors about this, they say they would be unlikely to rely on GP-ordered
tests in many instances, as the GP may not have ordered the same tests
that they would order, and also that as most consumers wait some time
between a referral and hospital appointment, they would order new
tests to see what the person's current health status was as it may
have deteriorated or improved while the person was waiting. They could
not act on old information.
How
will EHRs improve health outcomes? How will they improve participation?
How will they 'empower' consumers?
What
research backs up these claims? What models can be provided from overseas?
Have there been any evaluated pilots?
We
have been asking for this information for 6 years. Does it exist anywhere?
The Privacy Commission Report in 1998 also stated that the commission
had been unable to find any research that linked centralised records
to better health outcomes.
Surely
the MoH has carried out literature searches to back up the claims
made here. What does the literature say? Without this information
these claims are purely rhetoric and hype It seems to us that EHRs
have been invested with sweeping benefits that are not backed up by
any evidence.
3.4
Risks of EHRs
The
discussion of risks is very narrow and relates solely to privacy.
Various
strategies are proposed to address security such as firewalls, encryption
etc. The report of the Privacy Commissioner, entitled Medical Record
Databases - Just What You Need?, discussed how these were not
necessarily secure. Indeed the report said that use of the internet
was an insecure method of transmitting information. This report is
not mentioned in the HIMTP and we have never seen the NZHIS or MoH
discuss how it intends to address the concerns contained in this report.
There are other risks that are not discussed in the Health Knowledge
Strategy.

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3.4.1
Quality of information
Some store is put on the proposition that electronic records will
get around the problems of doctors' poor handwriting.
But
there is no information from studies or evaluations of the quality
of information in electronic records. There seems to be an assumption
that information recorded electronically will ipso facto be accurate.
There
are studies that show that there are many inaccuracies in patient
records. Why would these disappear or lessen with electronic records?
The information recorded is reliant on the person entering it, who
can makes mistakes. Why would they make fewer mistakes on a computer
than on paper?
As
the strategy notes, many GPs already have electronic patient records.
From our contacts with consumers, we are aware that these are just
as likely to contain inaccuracies as paper records. In fact, there
is a case to be made for the argument that EHRs may lead to the perpetuation
of such errors if a raft of providers in different settings rely on
these records. There may be less chance of correcting mistakes.
3.4.2
Over-reliance on EEIRs
On
page 12 it is stated that provider productivity will be enhanced because
information will be easier to find, read and assimilate, there will
reduction in history taking, physical examinations and laboratory
tests.
We
have great concerns about over-reliance on patient records. We view
with particular alarm the suggestion that EHRs will lead to a diminution
of the need to take histories and carry out physical examinations.
All doctors make mistakes, fail to detect problems and miss signs
and symptoms. The repetition of history-taking and examinations mitigates
against these errors going undetected.
Once
again, has the safety of this been tested by research?
We
are also concerned at the potential to disempower consumers if doctors
rely on electronic records from other providers for their information
about a person, rather than talking to the person. There may be less
chance for consumers to participate in decisionmaking and their own
care, if doctors feel they have received what they need via the EHR.
3.4.3
Loss of confidence for vulnerable consumers
The
amalgamation of records held in different settings enables providers
to see sensitive information to which they may not otherwise be privy.
Examples of extremely sensitive information are
- sexual and
reproductive health such as abortions, STIs, HIV testing, contraceptive
use, sexuality, sexual practices, adoptions, assisted reproductive
technology, including surrogacy, donations and use of sperm, ova
and embryos.
- Relationship
information such as domestic problems, marital/partner problems,
family problems
- illegal
activities such as incest, abuse, violence, drug-taking
- personal
problems such as financial difficulties, workplace problems
- mental health
such as depression, suicidal tendencies or attempts, phobias etc.
We
are concerned at the sharing of information such as this, and whether
this would:
- Deter vulnerable
people, such as young people and those with mental health problems
from seeking help, if they are anxious about confidentiality.
- Compromise
consumers' care as their problems may be approached in the context
of their having mental health/family/personal problems. We have
had a great deal of experience of this occuring in the women's
health area, where legitimate symptoms are discounted on the basis
of judgements about the person. For example, she has mental health
problems so she is probably imagining/exaggerating her symptoms?
We
raise both these as very serious issues which are not examined in
the strategy.
If
either of these scenarios occur, then there will not just be no 'health
improvement' but worse health care and less access for vulnerable
groups.
3.4.4.
Practical concerns
The
proposal will require a very wide range of providers becoming extremely
computer literate and skilled at security protections. Has there been
any assessment of the training needs of providers? Who will pay for
the training? Has there been any assessment of the willingness of
a range of providers to participate?
The
vision for the Health Knowledge Strategy states that it would
be 'all the accurate information you could possibly want....'
We
have concerns that providers may well be swamped with information.
When a provider accesses an EHR they may download a huge volume of
material including treatment and disease management protocols, clinical
pathways etc.
Many
providers have extremely tight schedules for seeing patients. For
example, many GPs have 10 minutes per patient, hospital specialists
a little more. Isn't there the possibility that there will be far
too much to be read and perused? That doctors will find the system
dysfunctional?
Has
any trial/pilot assessed the practicality of the proposal? Has there
been any trial/pilot of doctors' use of disease management programmes
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3.5
Consumer information
At
a number of points in the Health Knowledge Strategy consumer information
is discussed. Indeed, on page 37 the statement is made that 'provision
of access to consumer information is seen as a core health and disability
support service.'
We
were delighted to hear this as that is our core business and we have
developed a web site, web training courses for health consumer groups,
and under contract to the HFA and New Zealand Guidelines Group have
developed various consumer resources.
However,
we are aware that there is a paucity of good quality information.
We are using an evidence-based approach to developing resources, which
includes literature searches, wide consultation and pretesting with
consumers. We have developed a great deal of expertise in this area.
Consequently
we aware that this process is time-consuming and costly.
We
are therefore somewhat concerned at the proposal on page 38 for MoH
to work with Helpline to develop information. Some years ago the MoH
stepped out of the role of providing consumer information which had
previously done in some areas. We would like to know more about this
proposal. Does Helpline have the expertise and resources to develop
consumer information on a very wide range of topics?
There
is a danger that the size of this task is under-estimated and that
poor quality work might result. This would not be in consumers' interests.
4.0
Conclusion
It
is our submission that the HIMTP is poorly thought through, lacks
support of an evidence-base, and that the risks and possible outcomes
have not been adequately explored. There is no literature to support
the claims made for health improvements. The security issues have
been inadequately addressed.
There
is no practical assessment of the feasibility of the plan, nor of
whether it would positively enhance the practice of providers.
There
is a high degree of risk that it would result in an unwieldy, unworkable
electronic system creating significant costs. New Zealand's experience
with large interactive databases has not been positive.
There
has been grossly inadequate consumer input, and, despite the rhetoric
of consumer involvement, little serious attempt has been made to achieve
this. Certainly this current submission process cannot be used as
validation from the public to the plans.